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Friday August 6, 1999

Demio Results, Inspired by Newsgroup Postings

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Friday August 6, 1999

Demio Results, Inspired by Newsgroup Postings

<<-- Tuning Advice-->>

Well, someone mildly maligned the trusty prize Demio Aspec, so I felt the need to do a precise re-evaluation of its worth.

Looing through the garage in my "main" game, I discovered, I had a maxed race-modded Demio, a stock one (for reference), and one, the second car in my garage, which was only lightly modified. So I decided to race it like that, and see if I could win the Lightweight Battle Stage and/or the FF Challenge with it.

Actually, it had hard stabilizers front and rear, but I removed first both of them, but later put only the front one back on. In that form, the "memory card trade" value was Cr108,700.

The car had only weight-reduction stage 2 done. It also had neither of the "permanent" engine modifications done (balancing, and port polishing). Using weight-reduction 2 is a cheap dodge to avoid the handling problems that can occur in very light cars with stiffish suspension and/or stabilizers.

Apart from that:

   Tires               Racing S:S
  Brakes              Racing
  Brake Controller    Yes
  Suspension          *Normal*
  Front Stabilizer    Hard
  Rear Stabilizer     *Normal*
  
   ROM                 Tuned
  Turbine             Spec 3
  Driveshaft          ----
  
   Gear                Racing Support
  Clutch              *Normal*
  Flywheel            *Normal*
  Driveshaft          ----
  
   Muffler             Racing
  Intercooler         ----
  

The numbers:

   Spring Rate         2.0   1.8
  Ride Height         145   145
  Dampers              0     0
  Camber              0.0   0.0
  Stabilizers          1     0
  Brake Balance       12     9
  
           1st          4.062
          2nd          2.032
          3rd          1.426
          4th          1.058
          5th          0.800
                       -----
     Final Drive       4.500
  

Apart from the stabilizers, I changed no parts from what I found in the garage, but I did tweak some settings, principally the stabilizers and the intermediate gear ratios (although effective 1st and 5th gears, and final drive, I left alone).

The engine tuning gave 204 of a maximum possible 211bhp.

So, here's how I did:

<<-- Race Results-->>

                        Lightweight Battle Stage
+=======================================================================+
|Date: August 6, 1999|Day: 4025   |Car: lt-tune Demio Aspec Cr108,700   |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Major Opponents:   IntegraTypeR, DemioGL-X, CivicCRX'91                |
|                     StarletGlanzaV, MirageCyborgR                     |
+=======================================================================+
|                    |   qualifying   |       race ("finals")           |
|                    |----------------|---------------------------------|
|                    |pos|   time     |pos|   time     |fastest lap |pts|
|=======================================================================|
|Autumn Ring Mini ii | 4 |  0.41.439  | 2 |  1.21.176  |  0.38.431  | 6 |
|--------------------+---+------------+---+------------+----------------|
|Clubman Stage R5    | 1 |  0.57.679  | 1 |  1.51.971  |  0.52.650  | 9 |
|--------------------+---+------------+---+------------+----------------|
|Deep Forest ii      | 6 |  1.28.565  | 3 |  2:50.278  |  1.20.701  | 4 |
+=======================================================================+
|Result: 2nd 21to(19),15,11,5,4       |Prize car:     8-(           |19 |
+=======================================================================+





                        Lightweight Battle Stage
+=======================================================================+
|Date: August 6, 1999|Day: 4029   |Car: lt-tune Demio Aspec Cr108,700   |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Major Opponents:   Civic3dr'91, TruenoBZG, DemioGL-X,                  |
                     AE86LevinGT-Apex, MirageAstiRX                     |
+=======================================================================+
|                    |   qualifying   |       race ("finals")           |
|                    |----------------|---------------------------------|
|                    |pos|   time     |pos|   time     |fastest lap |pts|
|=======================================================================|
|Autumn Ring Mini ii | 3 |  0.41.021  | 1 |  1.18.712  |  0.37.777  | 9 |
|--------------------+---+------------+---+------------+----------------|
|Clubman Stage R5    | 5 |  0.58.974  | 1 |  1.53.324  |  0.52.441  | 9 |
|--------------------+---+------------+---+------------+----------------|
|Deep Forest ii      | 6 |  1.27.992  | 2 |  2.49.157  |  1.19.593  | 6 |
+=======================================================================+
|Result: 1st24to21,12,7,6,5           |Prize car: pink Civic (sold) |24 |
+=======================================================================+




                        FF Challenge
+=======================================================================+
|Date: August 6, 1999|Day: 4033   |Car: lt-tune Demio Aspec Cr108,700   |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Major Opponents:  FTO GPversionR, LevinBZG, delSolSiR,                 |
|                    Primera'952.0Te, LantisTypeR                       |
+=======================================================================+
|                    |   qualifying   |       race ("finals")           |
|                    |----------------|---------------------------------|
|                    |pos|   time     |pos|   time     |fastest lap |pts|
|=======================================================================|
|Deep Forest ii      | 6 |  1.28.822  | 1 |  2.49.672  |  1.20.729  | 9 |
|--------------------+---+------------+---+------------+----------------|
|Grand Valley East   | 6 |  1.16.284  | 1 |  2.23.156  |  1.07.416  | 9 |
|--------------------+---+------------+---+------------+----------------|
|Special Stage R11   | 1 |  2.13.360  | 1 |  4.17.526  |  2.04.392  | 9 |
+=======================================================================+
|Result: 1st27to15,14,8,8,3           |Prize car: yellow CRX (sold) |27 |
+=======================================================================+

In addition, my garage had a fully-maxed race-modified Demio Aspec. It was fitted with all possible parts, I believe, but note that a Demio at Deep Forest is one combination where you should use the normal flywheel instead of the racing flywheel, as per the warning in the write-up for the lighter flywheels.

Here are its numbers:

   Spring Rate         2.0   1.8
  Ride Height         105   105
  Dampers              2     2
  Camber              2.0   1.0
  Stabilizers          0     0
  Brake Balance       15    12
  
           1st          4.400
          2nd          2.000
          3rd          1.400
          4th          1.056
          5th          0.872
                       -----
     Final Drive       3.600
  
   Aero                0.40  0.53   (about 1/2F, and max R--pretty strange)
  

I should drive this sometime again. I think I might have been half-way through an experiment. Logic says those dampers should be too stiff for the suspension. (Depending upon what "0" means in the non-modified damper settings). Probably 1/0 stabilizers would help, and fix the problem I was trying to solve with the aero settings. And, although the car is light, and those (absolute minimum) spring rates do match the stock settings, I would guess they could be raised, to improve response, etc. But perhaps not.

I should also try tuning and driving a Demio Aspec with weight reduction 3.

But there is something else I might try, if I have time. I think I could reduce the value of my car below Cr100,000 by using the normal gearbox. My gears were different, but seemed to be oriented towards my early days when I would lose control a lot and need very low gears to start the turbo, especially since the "handbrake start" trick does *not* work with this Demio.

              My gears                        Stock gears
       4.062      18.279                  3.416     14.012
       2.032       9.144                  1.842      7.556
       1.426       6.417                  1.290      3.990
       1.058       4.761                  0.972      5.292
       0.800       3.600                  0.775      3.179
       -----                              -----
       4.500                              4.105
  

The extra columns of numbers are the effective ratio for each gear, obtained by multiplying the gear by the final drive. Note that the stock gears are higher (ie lower numbers) than mine. But, if anything, that's what I felt I needed. I almost ran out of top end at Grand Valley East and Special Stage R11, and I was going around most hairpins and other sharp corners in third gear. A 0-400 test with stock settings suggested, however, that I could get a reasonable start with the stock gears, since I can rev-up before the start. (But you cannot do that with the Demio if you do wipe out).


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