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------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deja News Toolbar Please visit our sponsor Explore by clicking here message/thread Message 1 of 4 for search +concept +car +adrian +pepper ; Return to search results help Re: Gran Turismo Author: Adrian Pepper <arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca> Date: 1999/03/30 Forum: alt.games.video.sony-playstation Fatbrain.com {*}Find books on +concept +car +adrian +pepper more headers author posting history post reply next _________________________________________________________________ "w Heremans" <heremanss@village.uunet.be> wrote, in article <7djnq8$r4$1@xenon.inbe.net>: > >Dave Connoy wrote in message ... >>On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Mike Fairweather wrote: ><SNIP> >>the "heavy" versions of both the Viper GTS-R and [R]Concept Car are in the >>UK version, making the Cerbera LM Edition the best car overall, with >>probably a race-modded '89 GT-R coming in second. > >You're right there, but i feel the 89 gt)r is faster, if you set it up so it >corners well(kind of ). > >> >>Owning only the US version, I don't know any of this for sure. Heck, why >>don't owners of each version (David Ralphs, you out there?) post the stats >>of the [R]Concept Car, Viper GTS-R, Cerbera LM, and race-modded '89 GT-R, >>and we'll compare? I'll start... >> >>US VERSION >>---------- >>Name Power Weight P/W >>[RM]R32 Skyline '89 GT-R 913 2268 .403 >>(Only 5 speeds and a damn narrow powerband though) >>[R]Concept Car 560 1329 .421 >>[R]Viper GTS-R 680 2753 .247 >>[R]Cerbera LM Edition 581 1984 .293 > >R32 89 gt-r 913 1065kg >Conceptcar 560 890kg >Viper GTS_R 680 1230kg >Cerbera 581 960kg >(europese version) >i don't have a calculator here, but it looks the same. I' d like to try the >Japanese version though. Um, 2268lb 1065kg 2.13 lb/kg 1329lb 890kg 1.49 lb/kg 2753lb 1230kg 2.23 lb/kg 1984lb 960kg 2.06 lb/kg in the case of the Skyline, one of you might have forgotten a flywheel or driveshaft, or something. But with the others, there are no weight modifications allowed. Using 2.204 lb/kg, European numbers become 1065kg 2347lb(2268) 890kg 1962lb(1329) 1230kg 2711lb(2753) 960kg 2115lb(1984) So, the numbers do not match exactly, but the 560bhp Concept Car is much heavier. And the Viper GTS-R is a teensy bit lighter. And the Cerbera LM significantly, but not drastically, heavier. But then again, gravity might be different in the European model. (That might affect comparison of US Cerbera vs European Cerbera, but would not affect relative values of different European models). Okay, so let's say the Cerbera LM weighs "one unit": Then: U.S. E.U. '89 GTS-R 1.143 1.109 [R]Concept Car 0.700 0.927 [R]Viper GTS-R 1.388 1.281 [R]Cerbera LM 1.000 1.000 So there is no consistency of the relative values either. Inspection suggests picking no other vehicle for "1.000" will produce anything like consistent results, either. It looks like the European values are rounded to the nearest 5 or 10 kg, (11 or 22lb!), but that alone doesn't explain the inconsistency either, even assuming the Concept Car is different. Adrian Pepper >Elvo > >> >>This will doubtless blow up in our faces because the different versions >>use different units of measurement, but at least we can compare >>power-to-weight ratios within each version. >> >>Dave Connoy >>connoy@students.uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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